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[RaoulDuke]

Why do people risk?   
Don't they love themselves? 
Do they think nobody love them..or?   
Do they consider that life just simply rubbish?   
I can understand imprudence of youth (adrenaline etc.), but when the person is for thirty, why he (or she) unable to stop and understand, he(she) is necessary to someone?!   

I think taking risks is not bad in itself. What is important is the relationship between risk and return.

[EL]

Why do people risk?   
Don't they love themselves? 
Do they think nobody love them..or?   
Do they consider that life just simply rubbish?   
I can understand imprudence of youth (adrenaline etc.), but when the person is for thirty, why he (or she) unable to stop and understand, he(she) is necessary to someone?!   

I think taking risks is not bad in itself. What is important is the relationship between risk and return.

Do you know a borders of reasonable risk? Even when it comes about risk for a living?
How much it cost?! 

[RaoulDuke]

I think taking risks is not bad in itself. What is important is the relationship between risk and return.

Do you know a borders of reasonable risk? Even when it comes about risk for a living?
How much it cost?!

That is a really interesting question.

Just to get everybody on board: I am in the process of getting a motorcycle drivers license, which has fun as a return but increases the risk of a fatal crash, even if not beyond a reasonable level (at least in my opinion).

But what is a reasonable level?

If the price of life was infinite, logic would tell us to avoid any risk to life at any cost (I am sure we need no formulas to agree on that). Yet, we take risks to life every day. For example, we leave the house to work. That lowers the risk of survival (commuting to work, having a stressful day and so on) but increases the quality of life (e.g. you do not need to depend on social insurance). If the price of ones one life was infinite, everybody would try to stay at home. If you joing the army, your probability of survival declines. Yet, many people join the army to earn money or for other reasons. Smoking gives really short term fun but seriously lets your probability of survival decline. Yet, millions smoke. When asked "Would you risk your own life to save a loved one?" most people would not hesitate and answer "Yes, of course!" (ok, probably depending on how loved the one is *g*)

I am not sure, but couldn't we calculate a price of ones own life from the above examples?

[EL]

What can be equivalent for life? - Only the life, the life of other people maybe!
 
 If somebody take risk when he go to army, then I think he wants to provide finance of his family maybe - it mean quality life of his children. (the life for life) But the salary in army isn't big. In American army about 1500 - 2000$ (if I not wrong), there is simply more benefits, early retirement, pension, insurance, better access to higher education, preferential treatment of citizenship (in the USA and in France). Surely they have serious insurance, no one would go to army otherwise. But they don't want be dead and don't go under bullets for insurance!  Be a soldier it's their profession.

  To give the life for loved person...    hmm... It a difficult question... If you have take decision immediately, when somebody raises the knife over head of your loved or of the member of your family, you most likely will rush to rescue without hesitation! But if you will know you have, for example, to give your organ (and maybe your life!) for life of your loved, you will hard think about it!

   If to talk about motorcyclists... For whose life want they to take risk to lose their own lifes?
 
   When we smoke, we leave ourselves chance to stop, we have time for thinking for to take a decision!

   I don't know if evaluating valuables of life as instead of other life is  reasonably here... 
   Maybe you see it differently!? 

[K-Ninchen]

I really came to ask that question when I saw videos like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU4rp_oRK0Q

[EL]

I really came to ask that question when I saw videos like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU4rp_oRK0Q

An adrenaline shot to the head, but he is produced to mobilize the body in case of danger.  A kind of link between the chemical reaction and mental state.Why do it causes euphoria in one, while others an inhibition and a fear?
   Obviously, that young people do not have children.. oh, ...and a lady there!   
Perhaps if they had children, they would felt a responsibility to them. Especially the women!!!    Their psychology is changing with the birth of a child, don't know how there with the psychology of fathers ... ... Should I envy the fact that they are experiencing the joy of the "subjugation" of height?  or just accept that they are idiots! - 
   I want just understand them! WHY???   

But what then drives them to do it?  Instant fun!?
Maybe have they the feeling that they are controlling the situation and are happy they conquered the nature? Feel they the independence and the freedom? 
Why not jump with a parachute or bungee jumping (extreme and more - less secure) ...
If it is only for the sake of the dispute, or to show off in front of the lady? So, the monkey also beat his chest to show how strong they are. 

[CommanderChaos]

When I go mountain climbing, I never take risks as big as those these people in the video take, but even then it's not always completely safe. I do, however, not really get a rush from putting myself into dangerous situations. Danger is a necessary evil you have to deal with when you want to conquer a challenge, which I like to do because it means fighting my fears and weaknesses. Fighting against myself and succeeding, nothing else can quite make me feel as strong, not to prove anything to anyone else, but exclusively to myself. Also, I am fascinated by finding out how my body reacts to extreme circumstances: I am even able to "enjoy" (for a certain value of enjoyment) feeling bad as the result of going over my limits (like that one time I suffered hypothermia during a long bike ride due to not having looked at the weather forecast), because that means learning where they are (and how to handle them).

Plus, I like phrasing impossibly long nested sentences. I hope this was legible at all.

[EL]

I admire climbers!   it's really hard sport or tourism?  even am at a loss as it correctly to call, but after all  - the sport. 
 Yes, to overcome itself brings possibly a special pleasure! 
 Too much physical training it demands and and it's certainly dangerous, but in what degree it's dangerous? You count the forces, to know on what tops to climb and which aren't available for you yet, gradually learn, plan the routes of the climbing area, you have a conductors eventually, so, you not recklessly climb to mountains, isn't it so?

 I, for example, always noted I get unusual pleasure simply from good physical activity, whether it be run, a bicycle, gymnastics a skating or even dancing, it's mean, endorphins are produced not necessarily in connection with adrenaline!
When you slide from the mountain on a bicycle or rolle skates adrenaline is present too, because there is an easy fear, but here isn't necessary to overcome itself, or to struggle with pain maybe, or to work before exhaustion of forces to achieve the object, as in mountaineering.    The worst thing that can happen - will break your leg, arm, or a combination of both, but in any case it's not fatal! 
   
I know there are some people addicted to adrenaline, do you think that it is an illness and it should be treated? On some sites are described cases of the address to the psychologist about this. Or is this normal, how do you think? 
Is a dependence on the adrenaline develops as a drug addiction? Whether it becomes a life-threatening eventually?  In mountaineering it would be very dangerous! Why not to stop after the broken leg or a hand? Or the risk becomes insuperable desire?       Why about this dependence don't speak so much like about tobacco, alcoholic  or computer dependency? Because extreme sports are expensive and are less widespread?

But what about the bikers?  There is a lot of them and it not sports! They're the most defenseless on a highway! 

I adore speed! I must admit, I usually break the rules and driving a car at a speed of 160 or higher, if possible (low traffic, good highway, dry road), but I can't tell that the adrenaline is produced when I drive, I feel quite secure on the car (the casing of the car, air bags, seat belts) Of course, it can not fully protect me in the case of an accident, but what can protect the motorcyclist?  Helmet, leather jacket?
 
Oh, yes, biker clothing absolutely COOL! Very sexy!  Oh, I love guys in leather biker suits !!! 

  But I wouldn't want to have permanently a stress when my darling on the route.   
Or should I be indifferent to what happened to him to support him to ride the iron horse!? 

There is no speech about opposition to someone's desire, only about attempt to understand, can it be replaced it with something?
For example to replace mountaineering with rock-climbing, a motorcycle with a high-speed driving on the car... Or.. not it cool? 

  So replace it with sex in a public place at last!     It's the adrenaline too and all are happy!!   

[CommanderChaos]

I admire climbers!   it's really hard sport or tourism?  even am at a loss as it correctly to call, but after all  - the sport. 
 Yes, to overcome itself brings possibly a special pleasure! 
 Too much physical training it demands and and it's certainly dangerous, but in what degree it's dangerous? You count the forces, to know on what tops to climb and which aren't available for you yet, gradually learn, plan the routes of the climbing area, you have a conductors eventually, so, you not recklessly climb to mountains, isn't it so?

That's the way it should be, yes. The challenge is to correctly estimate your abilities and the route's difficulties (plus the weather etc).

   
I know there are some people addicted to adrenaline, do you think that it is an illness and it should be treated? On some sites are described cases of the address to the psychologist about this. Or is this normal, how do you think? 
Is a dependence on the adrenaline develops as a drug addiction? Whether it becomes a life-threatening eventually?  In mountaineering it would be very dangerous! Why not to stop after the broken leg or a hand? Or the risk becomes insuperable desire?       Why about this dependence don't speak so much like about tobacco, alcoholic  or computer dependency? Because extreme sports are expensive and are less widespread?

I haven't thought about this, really, because I neither have this problem nor know anyone who does. But in the end, you can get addicted to anything.

[EL]

...But in the end, you can get addicted to anything.

One year ago one person persuaded me with short mathematical calculation that a travel by plane is safe. And I started to fly. Why the elementary facts can't to persuade persones with addict of adrenalin to refuse of their intentions?
It's mean the lack of something in their life and can't to solve it. 
Or they carry too much responsibility at work and need a reverse for rest...  or..?   
Are you agree, it's kind of drug and we should take them as addicts, without questions? 
 Or is it just another level of interests? 

[CommanderChaos]

I really can't answer that. I never had to deal with anyone who would overly indulge in extremely dangerous behaviour. I'd assume it depends on how much people refuse to stop, or on how much they lose sight of the risks, or.. you get what I mean.

[EL]

.. I'd assume it depends on how much people refuse to stop, or on how much they lose sight of the risks, or.. you get what I mean.

Yes, I am. 

[RaoulDuke]

...But in the end, you can get addicted to anything.

One year ago one person persuaded me with short mathematical calculation that a travel by plane is safe. And I started to fly.

And it is nice, isn't it?

[Simia]

Ich frage mich schon länger, warum ich eigentlich jedes Wochenende Schnupfen, z.T. mit Niesen und trockenen Augen etc. habe, dazu körperliche Unruhe/Unwohlsein und Abgeschlagenheit. Fast wie eine allergische Reaktion. Aber die Woche über nix. Was hab ich denn nur am Wochenende? Entspannung und Erholung? Die Birke vorm Fenster ist jedenfalls schon seit Wochen weg, die kann's nicht sein, zumal Birken glaub ich auch gar nicht mehr blühen.

[darkflower]

Vielleicht Hausstaub oder Milben? Wenn du dich am Wochenende viel mehr als sonst in der Wohnung aufhälst wäre es vielleicht möglich.