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THE WINNER OF THE ELECTIONS 2004 IS G.W. BUSH
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BUSH 274
Wins:
Oklahoma, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, Kansas, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Utah, Missouri, Idaho, Florida, Montana, Colorado, Arizona, Alaska, Arkansas, Nevada
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KERRY 252
Wins:
Maine, Massachusetts, Vermont, Connecticut, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Washington, D.C., Illinois, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, California, Oregon, New York, New Hampshire, Washington, Hawaii, Michigan, Minnesota
270 electoral votes needed to win
BUSH WINS
Challenges facing a second Bush term
President Bush rode to re-election because he managed to persuade enough Americans not to change their leader in time of war.
His supporters feel that his projection of American power around the world will keep them safer. They also responded to the moral values he presented.
His opponents at home and abroad will heave a sigh of frustration heard round the world. They fear that an America rampant will rule for another four years.
George Bush won despite the problems in Iraq from which there appears no early way out and despite the failure of his administration to capture Osama Bin Laden.
Quelle: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3975711.stm
Bush Wins Second Term
Kerry Concedes Defeat
President Bush won his bid for reelection this morning after challenger John F. Kerry conceded the election in a telephone call to the president at 11 a.m. The concession ended an overnight drama over the vote count in Ohio and gave Bush the second term in office that was denied his father 12 years ago.
Conceding the race publicly in a speech to supporters at Boston's historic Faneuil Hall three hours after his phone call with Bush, Kerry said that he had congratulated the president and that they had "talked about the danger of division in our country." Quelle: http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19510-2004Nov2.html
CLIFFHANGER IN OHIO
White House claims Bush victory
President George W Bush has convincingly won the US election, the White House has said.
But the final result hinges on the state of Ohio where, with 99% of votes counted, Mr Bush is leading Senator John Kerry by about 136,000.
Mr Bush is delaying a formal victory claim to give Senator Kerry "time to reflect" on the results, chief of staff Andrew Card said.
The president is expected to make a statement in the next few hours.
The Democrats are so far refusing to concede, saying a substantial number of uncounted provisional ballots could yet give them victory in Ohio, which has 20 votes in the Electoral College.
Quelle: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3976843.stm
BUSH CAMP CERTAIN OF WIN:
Bush camp claims certainty of victory
White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card said early Wednesday that the Bush campaign is convinced the president has won re-election with a victory over Sen. John Kerry.
"President Bush decided to give Sen. Kerry the respect of more time to reflect on the results of this election," Card told GOP supporters at the Reagan Federal Building and International Trade Center in Washington. "The president will be making a statement later today."
Card said, "We are convinced that President Bush has won re-election with at least 286 electoral votes." Quelle: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/02/election.main/index.html
BUSH HOLDS LEAD; Ohio Undecided
President Bush is narrowly leading the race for the White House,
but the final result appears to hinge on the state of Ohio, which is still too close to call. Quelle: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3976843.stm
In Ohio, 'a fight for every vote'
With 99 percent of Ohio's precincts reporting, a split of about 140,000 votes separated President Bush from John Kerry.
As such, nearly every vote was almost certain to be scrutinized. About 70 percent of ballots in the state were cast using the same punch cards that led to the Florida recount in 2000. And the Kerry campaign refused to concede, saying that provisional ballots cast by voters across the state could hand them a victory. Quelle: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6364144/
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President: Ohio Votes %
Bush * (R) 2,764,809 51
Kerry (D) 2,620,594 48
Other 25,583 0
Precincts:99% 3:33 AM ET
Full Results Source: AP
President: Iowa Votes %
Bush * (R) 737,062 50
Kerry (D) 723,018 49
Other 11,436 1
Precincts:99% 3:33 AM ET
Full Results Source: AP
President: Wis. Votes %
win Kerry (D) 1,409,213 50
Bush * (R) 1,393,725 49
Other 24,952 1
Precincts:95% 3:33 AM ET
Full Results Source: AP
President: Nev. Votes %
Bush * (R) 388,791 51
Kerry (D) 368,305 48
Other 12,729 2
Precincts:100% 3:33 AM ET
Full Results Source: AP
President: Hawaii Votes %
win Kerry (D) 166,997 55
Bush * (R) 134,275 44
Other 2,171 1
Precincts:65% 3:33 AM ET
Full Results Source: AP
President: N.M. Votes %
Bush * (R) 305,142 52
Kerry (D) 279,956 47
Other 6,357 1
Precincts:98% 3:33 AM ET
Full Results Source: AP
Fla. Senate Votes %
Martinez (R) 3,542,919 49
Castor (D) 3,462,952 48
Other 161,880 2
Precincts:99% 3:33 AM ET
Full Results Source: AP
S.D. Senate Votes %
Thune (R) 195,727 51
Daschle * (D) 185,952 49
Precincts:97% 3:33 AM ET
Full Results Source: AP
Colo. Senate Votes %
Salazar (D) 912,886 50
Coors (R) 866,508 48
Other 38,832 2
Precincts:88% 3:33 AM ET
Full Results Source: AP
HOUSE(435 Total Seats)
Democrats 195
Republican 224
Independent 1
Undecided 15
SENATE (100 Total Seats)
Democrats 44
Republican 52
Independent 1
Undecided 3
Quelle:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/?LOAD_PAGE&reload=true
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Merkwürdig.... der konservative Sender FOX berichtet zur Zeit von 269 zu 242 Wahlmännerstimmen für Bush während eher liberale Presse wie die New York Times von 249 zu 242 berichtet. Tja, jeder sieht halt das, was er sehen will.
Ach ja, und wie es aussieht sind wieder schön viele Wahlmaschinen ausgefallen und Wahlunterlagen verschwunden etc. etc. ... Herrlich! Ich amüsiere mich jetzt schon wieder königlich! Das ist wie Hollywood! Und die OSZE-beobachter haben bestimmt auch ihren Spaß!
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Merkwürdig.... der konservative Sender FOX berichtet zur Zeit von 269 zu 242 Wahlmännerstimmen für Bush während eher liberale Presse wie die New York Times von 249 zu 242 berichtet. Tja, jeder sieht halt das, was er sehen will.
Ach ja, und wie es aussieht sind wieder schön viele Wahlmaschinen ausgefallen und Wahlunterlagen verschwunden etc. etc. ... Herrlich! Ich amüsiere mich jetzt schon wieder königlich! Das ist wie Hollywood! Und die OSZE-beobachter haben bestimmt auch ihren Spaß!
Ja...es mir auch aufgefallen...
Wobei ich es auf der HP von MSNBC gesehen habe:
BUSH: 269
Kerry: 238
Momentan habe ich 3 HPs gefunden die mir meine obrigen Angaben bestätigen: CNN, Washingtonpost und BBC.
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mit ahnung von der berichterstattung sowie dem wahlsystem an sich braucht einen eine solche diskrepanz nicht zu verwundern.
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Und das tolle ist: Jetzt hat Bush die Mehrheit im Senat, im Repräsentantenhaus und somit bald auch am obersten Gerichtshof. Er stellt die Regierung natürlich und zusätzlich ist die Mehrheit der Gouverneure ebenfalls republikanisch. Er hat also in Zukunft nahezu freie Hand. Armes Amerika!
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Das stimmt. Es sieht gerade nicht so gut für Kerry aus.
Tom Daschle, der Führer der Demokraten im Senat, verlor in South Dakota gegen seinen republikanischen Kontrahenten John Thune.
Die Republikaner gehe davon aus, den Swing State Ohio gewonnen zu haben, der dem Sieger 20 Wahlmännerstimmen bringt. In Ohio liege Bush mit 140.000 Stimmen vor Kerry, sagte Card. Der Innenminister des Bundesstaates sprach, daß diese Zahl statistisch auch dann nicht aufzuholen ist, wenn man die provisorischen Wahlzettel berücksichtigte”.
Card sagte vor Anhängern der republikanischen Partei in Washington, „Damit hat Bush den Staat Ohio gewonnen”.
Die provisorischen Stimmzettel wurden von Wählern abgegeben, von denen zunächst unklar war, ob sie tatsächlich wahlberechtigt waren. Diese Wahlzettel müssen deshalb erst auf ihre Gültigkeit überprüft werden, bevor die Stimmen gewertet werden.
Im Senat standen 34 der 100 Posten zur Wahl. Nach vorläufigen Ergebnissen konnten die Republikaner ihre derzeitige Mehrheit von 51 Sitzen auf 53 erweitern.
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das schreit gerade zu nach einem copy&paste-award.
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this sucks! what sucks the most is that bush has so many supporters, and that they are scary stupid people for the most part... what also sucks is that kerry is only a little bit better than bush. another thing that sucks is that they (bush suppoters) are saying out loud and with conviction that this is not just a war on terror it is a cultural war for their "moral values" a battle for what is "right" against the rest of america!!! the only thing that doesn't suck is that i happen to live in a city where over 80% of the popular vote went to kerry...
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und welche stadt ist das?
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Bluediva ist aus Minneapolis.
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In Washington D.C. nearly 90% voted for Kerry.
That's why Bush preferes to be in Texas :roll:
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Wie ich gerade auf spiegel-online lesen konnte, ist zumindest dieser Wiederling Ashcroft zurückgetreten.Wenigstens ein kleiner Lichtblick.
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My wife and I were considering moving to Holland (where she's from), mostly because of how the christians are trying to hijack the country - and doing a decent job of it, at least in the short run. But two things are probably going to make us stay. The first thing is Holland seems on the edge of its own war with Islam, except the enemy already lives there. Seriously, talking to Dutch people makes me appreciate how great our Mexican immigrants are. They learn the language, work for a living, don't treat their women like shit.... The Turks and Morrocans are like vampires ... once the Dutch invited them in they can't get rid of them.
The other reason we will probably stay is that this Bush bullshit is just a short-term victory. I'm 28 years old and already I can talk to people in high school and hear about girls kissing in the open and other things that the religious right is very much against. Wait 10 years and these kids who take these things for granted will be voting. Things go from conservative to liberal, almost never the other way. Just last year our Supreme Court said that anti-sodomy laws were illegal (basically they said if two people want to have anal sex it's none of the govt's damn business).
This christian uprising is the democratic equivalent of pushing the tide back with a broom, and the reason is that human sexuality is inate and relentless. Religious people lose ground the minute they stop yelling at people about eternal torment or rallying behind some dumbass like Bush, and they almost never get it back. That they are rallying at all is a sign that they feel threatened, as well they should. Their belief system is in its death throes. This is the last great march of a doomed army.
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But kissing in the public is what the Hippies have already done. Kissing in Public is nothing unusual since decades. And the hippies from the seventies gave their vote too, right?
I can't see that this elections had much to do with god. TRUE christians would not vote a lier, a war president and manipulator such as Bush is. Christianity is much misused here. What a medieval understanding of god: abortion= No, war= Yes, interracial dating= No, death sentence= Yes... If Jesus would hear that!!!
To the immigrants: I live in a student home together with heaps of arabians and turks and it is not my first flat together with muslims. I can say that I would swap our muslims for your Latinos at any time!!!
Der Uhu
P.S.: About sodomy: What does it have to do with anal sex? One may correct me but I always thought that "sodomy" is having sex with animals....
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minneapolis \o/
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Well the difference I see is that the hippies were a sub-culture. The things they thought were morally alright were not given much weight by the mainstream culture. Now we see a more relaxed moral code online, on tv, and in movies, and it is accepted by people who aren't "on the fringe". It's becoming normal for normal people.
Your point about a true Christian is valid, but you're asking people to think for themselves. A lot of Americans do (Bush only won by about 3%), but these religious types are the ones that also believe heavily in patriotism - to the point that they get angry when someone says something negative about the US. These aren't thinkers, these are cattle. If you can't discuss the problems in a country how can you fix them? Personally I've never figured out the enigma of the Christian businessman, but half this country seems convinced that God loves capitalism. <shrug> The problem isn't that they have different beliefs, it's that they just believe whatever they're fed (polls showed that most Bush supporters still think Iraq is hiding WMDs) and when you challenge their views (which they can't defend) they get angry. This goes for politics AND religion. And they're completely uninformed also, due to their tendency to oversimplify things - most have no idea what the Kyoto Accord is. Whether or not it's correct to point out, there is a MASSIVE overlap between uninformed, gullible Bush supporters and American Christians.
Sodomy does mean sex with animals, but it also means anal sex. It's kind of a catch-all word for deviant sex. But the law was mostly used to target gays, since I don't think goat-fuckers were coming out of the closet anytime soon.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sodomy
I'm not sure how Germany is with it's Muslim population, but after visiting Holland and having *every single* Dutch person I talked bitch about Morrocans/Turks, and then walking around and seeing everyone intimidated by groups of 5+ young guys (and zero women) I sympathize. Our Latinos may or may not be worse, (I personally think they're better because they try and adopt the host country's culture) but they simply aren't a big enough part of the population to be a pain in the ass.