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[biserka]

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THE WINNER OF THE ELECTIONS 2004 IS G.W. BUSH


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BUSH 274
Wins:
Oklahoma, Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, Kansas, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Utah, Missouri, Idaho, Florida, Montana, Colorado, Arizona, Alaska, Arkansas, Nevada

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KERRY 252
Wins:
Maine, Massachusetts, Vermont, Connecticut, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Washington, D.C., Illinois, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, California, Oregon, New York, New Hampshire, Washington, Hawaii, Michigan, Minnesota

270 electoral votes needed to win


BUSH WINS

Challenges facing a second Bush term
President Bush rode to re-election because he managed to persuade enough Americans not to change their leader in time of war.

His supporters feel that his projection of American power around the world will keep them safer. They also responded to the moral values he presented.
His opponents at home and abroad will heave a sigh of frustration heard round the world. They fear that an America rampant will rule for another four years.
George Bush won despite the problems in Iraq from which there appears no early way out and despite the failure of his administration to capture Osama Bin Laden.
Quelle: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3975711.stm

Bush Wins Second Term
Kerry Concedes Defeat

President Bush won his bid for reelection this morning after challenger John F. Kerry conceded the election in a telephone call to the president at 11 a.m. The concession ended an overnight drama over the vote count in Ohio and gave Bush the second term in office that was denied his father 12 years ago.
Conceding the race publicly in a speech to supporters at Boston's historic Faneuil Hall three hours after his phone call with Bush, Kerry said that he had congratulated the president and that they had "talked about the danger of division in our country."  Quelle: http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19510-2004Nov2.html

CLIFFHANGER IN OHIO


White House claims Bush victory
President George W Bush has convincingly won the US election, the White House has said.
But the final result hinges on the state of Ohio where, with 99% of votes counted, Mr Bush is leading Senator John Kerry by about 136,000.

Mr Bush is delaying a formal victory claim to give Senator Kerry "time to reflect" on the results, chief of staff Andrew Card said.
The president is expected to make a statement in the next few hours.

The Democrats are so far refusing to concede, saying a substantial number of uncounted provisional ballots could yet give them victory in Ohio, which has 20 votes in the Electoral College.
Quelle: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3976843.stm


BUSH CAMP CERTAIN OF WIN:
Bush camp claims certainty of victory
White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card said early Wednesday that the Bush campaign is convinced the president has won re-election with a victory over Sen. John Kerry.
"President Bush decided to give Sen. Kerry the respect of more time to reflect on the results of this election," Card told GOP supporters at the Reagan Federal Building and International Trade Center in Washington. "The president will be making a statement later today."

Card said, "We are convinced that President Bush has won re-election with at least 286 electoral votes." Quelle: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/02/election.main/index.html

BUSH HOLDS LEAD; Ohio Undecided
President Bush is narrowly leading the race for the White House,
but the final result appears to hinge on the state of Ohio, which is still too close to call. Quelle: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3976843.stm

In Ohio, 'a fight for every vote'
With 99 percent of Ohio's precincts reporting, a split of about 140,000 votes separated President Bush from John Kerry.

As such, nearly every vote was almost certain to be scrutinized.  About 70 percent of ballots in the state were cast using the same punch cards that led to the Florida recount in 2000. And the Kerry campaign refused to concede, saying that provisional ballots cast by voters across the state could hand them a victory. Quelle: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6364144/

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President: Ohio    Votes    %
   Bush * (R)    2,764,809    51
   Kerry (D)    2,620,594    48
   Other    25,583    0
Precincts:99%    3:33 AM ET
Full Results   Source:  AP
      
President: Iowa    Votes    %
   Bush * (R)    737,062    50
   Kerry (D)    723,018    49
   Other    11,436    1
Precincts:99%    3:33 AM ET
Full Results   Source:  AP
      
President: Wis.    Votes    %

win   Kerry (D)    1,409,213    50
   Bush * (R)    1,393,725    49
   Other    24,952    1
Precincts:95%    3:33 AM ET

Full Results   Source:  AP

President: Nev.    Votes    %
   Bush * (R)    388,791    51
   Kerry (D)    368,305    48
   Other    12,729    2
Precincts:100%    3:33 AM ET
Full Results   Source:  AP
      
President: Hawaii    Votes    %

win  Kerry (D)    166,997      55
   Bush * (R)    134,275     44
   Other    2,171    1
Precincts:65%    3:33 AM ET
Full Results   Source:  AP
      
President: N.M.    Votes    %
   Bush * (R)    305,142    52
   Kerry (D)    279,956    47
   Other    6,357    1
Precincts:98%    3:33 AM ET
Full Results   Source:  AP

Fla. Senate    Votes    %
   Martinez (R)    3,542,919    49
   Castor (D)    3,462,952    48
   Other    161,880    2
Precincts:99%    3:33 AM ET
Full Results   Source:  AP
      
S.D. Senate    Votes    %
   Thune (R)    195,727    51
   Daschle * (D)    185,952    49
Precincts:97%    3:33 AM ET
Full Results   Source:  AP
      
Colo. Senate    Votes    %
   Salazar (D)    912,886    50
   Coors (R)    866,508    48
   Other    38,832    2
Precincts:88%    3:33 AM ET
Full Results   Source:  AP

HOUSE(435 Total Seats)
Democrats      195
Republican      224
Independent      1
Undecided      15

SENATE (100 Total Seats)
Democrats      44
Republican      52
Independent      1
Undecided      3

Quelle:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/?LOAD_PAGE&reload=true

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[Der Uhu]

Merkwürdig.... der konservative Sender FOX berichtet zur Zeit von 269 zu 242 Wahlmännerstimmen für Bush während eher liberale Presse wie die New York Times von 249 zu 242 berichtet. Tja, jeder sieht halt das, was er sehen will.

Ach ja, und wie es aussieht sind wieder schön viele Wahlmaschinen ausgefallen und Wahlunterlagen verschwunden etc. etc. ... Herrlich! Ich amüsiere mich jetzt schon wieder königlich! Das ist wie Hollywood! Und die OSZE-beobachter haben bestimmt auch ihren Spaß!

[biserka]

Merkwürdig.... der konservative Sender FOX berichtet zur Zeit von 269 zu 242 Wahlmännerstimmen für Bush während eher liberale Presse wie die New York Times von 249 zu 242 berichtet. Tja, jeder sieht halt das, was er sehen will.

Ach ja, und wie es aussieht sind wieder schön viele Wahlmaschinen ausgefallen und Wahlunterlagen verschwunden etc. etc. ... Herrlich! Ich amüsiere mich jetzt schon wieder königlich! Das ist wie Hollywood! Und die OSZE-beobachter haben bestimmt auch ihren Spaß!

Ja...es mir auch aufgefallen...
Wobei ich es auf der HP von MSNBC gesehen habe:
BUSH: 269
Kerry: 238

Momentan habe ich 3 HPs gefunden die mir meine obrigen Angaben bestätigen: CNN, Washingtonpost und BBC.

[olli]

mit ahnung von der berichterstattung sowie dem wahlsystem an sich braucht einen eine solche diskrepanz nicht zu verwundern.

[Der Uhu]

Und das tolle ist: Jetzt hat Bush die Mehrheit im Senat, im Repräsentantenhaus und somit bald auch am obersten Gerichtshof. Er stellt die Regierung natürlich und zusätzlich ist die Mehrheit der Gouverneure ebenfalls republikanisch. Er hat also in Zukunft nahezu freie Hand. Armes Amerika!

[biserka]

Das stimmt. Es sieht gerade nicht so gut für Kerry aus.

Tom Daschle, der Führer der Demokraten im Senat, verlor in South Dakota gegen seinen republikanischen Kontrahenten John Thune.

Die Republikaner gehe davon aus, den Swing State Ohio gewonnen zu haben, der dem Sieger 20 Wahlmännerstimmen bringt. In Ohio liege Bush mit 140.000 Stimmen vor Kerry, sagte Card. Der Innenminister des Bundesstaates sprach, daß diese Zahl statistisch auch dann nicht aufzuholen ist, wenn man die provisorischen Wahlzettel berücksichtigte”.

Card sagte vor Anhängern der republikanischen Partei in Washington, „Damit hat Bush den Staat Ohio gewonnen”.
 Die provisorischen Stimmzettel wurden von Wählern abgegeben, von denen zunächst unklar war, ob sie tatsächlich wahlberechtigt waren. Diese Wahlzettel müssen deshalb erst auf ihre Gültigkeit überprüft werden, bevor die Stimmen gewertet werden.

Im Senat standen 34 der 100 Posten zur Wahl. Nach vorläufigen Ergebnissen konnten die Republikaner ihre derzeitige Mehrheit von 51 Sitzen auf 53 erweitern.

[olli]

das schreit gerade zu nach einem copy&paste-award.

[bluediva]

this sucks! what sucks the most is that bush has so many supporters, and that they are scary stupid people for the most part... what also sucks is that kerry is only a little bit better than bush.  another thing that sucks is that they (bush suppoters) are saying out loud and with conviction that this is not just a war on terror it is a cultural war for their "moral values" a battle for what is "right" against the rest of america!!!  the only thing that doesn't suck is that i happen to live in a city where over 80% of the popular vote went to kerry...

[therevor]

und welche stadt ist das?

[Der Uhu]

Bluediva ist aus Minneapolis.

[Eisbär]

In Washington D.C. nearly 90% voted for Kerry.


That's why Bush preferes to be in Texas :roll:

[Thomas]

Wie ich gerade auf spiegel-online lesen konnte, ist zumindest dieser Wiederling Ashcroft zurückgetreten.Wenigstens ein kleiner Lichtblick.

[Mr_Bateman]

My wife and I were considering moving to Holland (where she's from), mostly because of how the christians are trying to hijack the country - and doing a decent job of it, at least in the short run.  But two things are probably going to make us stay.  The first thing is Holland seems on the edge of its own war with Islam, except the enemy already lives there.  Seriously, talking to Dutch people makes me appreciate how great our Mexican immigrants are.  They learn the language, work for a living, don't treat their women like shit....  The Turks and Morrocans are like vampires ... once the Dutch invited them in they can't get rid of them.

The other reason we will probably stay is that this Bush bullshit is just a short-term victory.  I'm 28 years old and already I can talk to people in high school and hear about girls kissing in the open and other things that the religious right is very much against.  Wait 10 years and these kids who take these things for granted will be voting.  Things go from conservative to liberal, almost never the other way.  Just last year our Supreme Court said that anti-sodomy laws were illegal (basically they said if two people want to have anal sex it's none of the govt's damn business).

This christian uprising is the democratic equivalent of pushing the tide back with a broom, and the reason is that human sexuality is inate and relentless.  Religious people lose ground the minute they stop yelling at people about eternal torment or rallying behind some dumbass like Bush, and they almost never get it back.  That they are rallying at all is a sign that they feel threatened, as well they should.  Their belief system is in its death throes.  This is the last great march of a doomed army.

[Der Uhu]

But kissing in the public is what the Hippies have already done. Kissing in Public is nothing unusual since decades. And the hippies from the seventies gave their vote too, right?

I can't see that this elections had much to do with god. TRUE christians would not vote a lier, a war president and manipulator such as Bush is. Christianity is much misused here.  What a medieval understanding of god: abortion= No, war= Yes, interracial dating= No, death sentence= Yes...  If Jesus would hear that!!!

To the immigrants: I live in a student home together with heaps of arabians and turks and it is not my first flat together with muslims. I can say that I would swap our muslims for your Latinos at any time!!!

Der Uhu

P.S.: About sodomy: What does it have to do with anal sex? One may correct me but I always thought that "sodomy" is having sex with animals....

[olli]

minneapolis \o/